When to make claims that it works?

I wrote this on a forum, and needed to add it here.

People who are chronically ill are vulnerable. Of course, new protocols meds and supplements are enticing to those people who are suffering.

However, what is an accurate time in which to test a product before one can claim it does not work? Or that it does? What are the measurements by which we can make these claims? Is it based on the severity of illness? What about the dosages?

One user on this forum who has been sick for 20 years has claimed that after 1 week of MMS it does not work and has made them sick by giving them heart issues and is now posting that there are no claims to back up proof that it works. Apparently thousands and thousands of people who are too sick to even work or leave their homes are simply all making it up. NOT logical or rational, as far as I am concerned.

The heart sensations seem to be fairly common from what I have read in taking MMS so I am shocked to find out that would actually stop someone who is suffering for 20 years from MS or another debilitating condition after only 1 week of time. Shocking that would actually stop someone from the possibility of getting well. Shocking to think that someone thinks that is a long enough time to try something and shocking that they were expecting to have no negative side effects at all.

I am not making assumptions that MMS WILL work for everyone. But stopping after a week, and taking the opposing side of MMS, is something I really question.

Not even most western antibiotics are less than 1 week of a course to ingest and that certainly does not stop people from taking them, even though they give RIDICULOUS side effects.

So my question is, how long should someone take MMS before it can be considered a solid try? And what sort of side effects should stop someone from going on? I know I also had heart issues, and simply connected with others who also went through it. I did not let fear stop me.

In my opinioin, a week is just not enough to go around making claims that it does not work or makes you sick, especially when a lot of people have taken it for years and years with only positive results. I believe MANY people are doing this. This shoudl be addressed when considering the viewpoint tht it does not work.

So what is a reasonable length of time to try MMS? And what would be the thing to stop you from taking it, when you know that others are having similar reactions to taking it...and months later, claim to be totally well?

My suggestion is that if you have been chronically sick, meaning 2 or more years very ill, then committing to 6 months of taking MMS should be enough time to resasonably decide if it is making a difference for you. 

Update on Iodoral and the MIRACLE of B12!

Well, things are taking wild turns for me now.

Since the trip to the hospital set back my MMS taking, I have to go with the flow and see what my body is needing and asking for. The palps were really bad and seem to be WORSE after I eat.

I began taking more MMS today.

But two days ago I started taking B12 at the advice of a doctor who is willing to treat me for hypothyroidism. Since two days of taking 3000 mcg (the max dose) I feel SO much better! Amazing actually.

I still have this twitching that is driving me mad. And I began getting back to the MMS again, and having all over body sharp pains and pain in my lower stomach, which I am guessing is also from my coming menstruation, I feel about 25% better with the B12 alone.

Anyone who is having symptoms like mine..get large amounts of B12 and take it sublinguillay. Most patients who are chronically ill are deficient in B12..learned from two doctors.

So, what happened when I got the Iodoral was I thought it was making me feel better. But a doctor told me that until I was TOTALLY sure that I was not having an autoimmune thyroid condition that I should NOT take the iodine. So I stopped after day 2...I was NOT feeling well...and I am going to get tested for an autoimmune thyroid issue...not Hashimoto's..but different. Apparently you can have an autoimmune thyroid issue and it NOT be Hashimoto's. At least that is how I have understood it.

This week I also noticied that the adrenal dessicated Dr. Wilson product and Drenamine for my adrenals are NOT making me feel more balanced..but instead were making me feel worse..Maybe it is due to the hormonal changes for my period? This is going on even though it has been confirmed I DO have adrenal fatigue. This indicates, according to the expert doctor, that 1, the meds I am taking are not strong enough, or 2, that the Hypothyroidism is causing the adrenals to be low and these needed to get treated, or both.

So I am stopping the Dr. wilson and other and ordered Isocort instead. 

Tomorrow I am off to visit the western expert in the area of thyroid and get a test with the fine needle aspiration to TRULY measure what is going on in my thyroid. Apparently, all other thyroid tests are basically WORTHLESS because the thyroid changes EVERY THIRTY SECONDS and that is how varied the tests can be. Symptoms need to be examined when looking at the thyroid and NOT ONLY THE LABS. This is the western medical communitie's HUGEST mistake.

Ta Ta For Now! Focus on Health and not sickness! Trying to take my pwn advice!

MUST READ if you have Chronic fatigue, Fibromyalgia or Thyroid Isssues

Well, this week has been monumental for me.

I have not written because I have been too sick with hormonal problems. I was admitted to the hospital on Wednesday with abnormal heart beats and palpitations. It is absolutely related to my worsening undiagnosed thyroid issues....the problem is that not one doctor is capable of seeing it.

I stopped taking the MMS when I went into the hospital. I am only drinking one or two glasses of water a day because right now that is all I can handle.

This post is not about MMS but is about what I learned about the thyroid, chronic fatigue, and fibromyalgia this week. MUST READ if you have any of these or suspect you do.

Firstly, most doctors have NO clue about the thyroid. So here is the million dollar information that can really spare a lot of people years of suffering: IF YOU HAVE CHRONIC FATIGUE OR FIBROMYALGIA CHANCES ARE YOU HAVE THYROID PROBLEMS. PERIOD.

Most times thyroid tests will come back within what the doctors term "normal" ranges. If a doctor tells you you do nto have a thyroid problem because you are within normal ranges, FIND ANOTHER DOCTOR RIGHT AWAY. 

For the last 9 months I have ran all over this country of Sweden trying to find help for what I know is my adrenal fatigue and thyroid imbalances. It took an $170.00 phone conversation with a PROFESSIONAL MEDICAL RESEARCHER in the US in the area of thyroidism to realize that all the thyroid tests DO NOT MEAN A THING...THEY ARE WORTHLESS.

The doctor he referred me to, which so happens to live here where I live and has taken me over 9 months to find, has also done scientific research on the thyroid. MANY MANY people who have NORMAL ranges on their thyroid tests and who are chronically sick with fibromyalgia dn chronic fatigue actually have autoimmune reactions happening in their thyroid, have inflammed thyroid and GET BETTER WHEN ARE TREATED FOR HYPOTHYROIDISM.

WOW...incredible that NOBODY seems to know this. Even the doctor who published these medical papers here in Sweden are being persecuted and harassed for his scientific findings and they are threatening to take away his medical license.

Anyway, the test that this doctor conducts is rarely done in the US and is called a Fine needle aspiration where they take tissue out of the thyroid. Obviously it needs to be done by someone experienced, but it shows that indeed the cause of the chronic pain and illness associated with these conditions is due to imbalances within the thyroid, and when the TSH is lowered, then you can be well. Over HALF of those who are NORMAL in their thyroid tests, actually have thyroid problems that can be treated successfully and is TOTALLY missed by most doctors.

Moral of the story...if you are chronically ill, GET YOUR THYORID CHECKED and find a good doctor who knows about these things. 

This doctor is a wealth of brilliant information. You can pay to consult with him on the phone at $4.25 a minute and he will help you take the proper tests even if you live in another state.

You do not need to suffer as I have. I hope to get this fine needle aspiration test this week so that my agony may finally end. 

Do yourself a favor and check out this web site if you think you are hypothyroid, have chronic fatigue, or fibromyalgia. It may be the best thing you can do for your health.

http://www.drlowe.com/

Here is the page taken from Dr. Lowe's site with information about the Swedish doctor who diagnoses those who come back with normal lab tests. This information was published in medical journals and is being ignored by Swedish doctors. This may be helpful for those in Europe.

http://www.thyroidscience.com/studies/sandberg.2008/sandberg.feb.2008.htm

I wish you all well...

April 23, 2009 starting Iodoral and Humaworm.

It has been a few days, it gets a bit cumbersome to write everyday.

My hormones have been freaking out a bunch, so that is why.

My twitching is getting worse..I am now having twitching also in my eye...My ND says it is possible these issues are being caused by my thyorid.

There was a study I read that in RATS, the MMS decreased the effect of the thyroid. Also, any type of detoxing will decrease iodine in the body and it is important to realize that if you have hormonal issues. 

I ordered Iodoral today to start Iodine therapy...and it should be here in a few days.

I am praying it solves my twitching problem. I can't wait. I am having high hopes for this.

I also ordered Humaworm since lots of people say it is good at killing parasites...and I have been seeing enough of those coming out to warrant a good cleanse again.

The strange thing is that I have done the black walnut, cloves, and wormwood before...and not so much stuff ever really came out. So with my new tool of enemas, plus the MMS, I bet there is going to be a big jump in improvement for me.

I am waiting and praying the Iodoral will work..my hormonal situation is so out of control..I have no balance whatso ever. If you are reading this, please pray for me!

April 21, 2009- trying pumpkin seeds

I think what has been coming out of me is tapeworm. It is dead and coming out in parts..and it is off white and I am considering getting it all tested so I can know for sure what the heck is happening.

My twitching is NOT getting better. I feel that in fact it is getting worse..however, this is not in relation to the MMS because it was getting worse before I began MMS anyhow.  I need to get to the bottom of it. I feel like there is ONE thing missing..one deficiency..one thing..and I do not know what it is and it causes my health to be so poor. Maybe my thyroid is the problem. I hope to start Iodine soon. 

I am really really tired. I did not do my MMS enema this morning.

I am taking 6 drops AM and PM now...and started taking pumpkin seeds which are supposed to be good for killing worms and tapeworms. My stomach freaked out the first night when I drank them with an onion and some honey...WOW...so much gurgling. It was nuts.

I decided that I am going to keep on taking a small glass with some soya milk each morning for awhile...since I think I felt slightly better ingesting them. I know I did the first day. But my hormones interfere a lot with things.

I will then follow the pumpkin cup with an enema. Yesterday this was highly effective..many parasites came out.  Lots of the tapewom and flukes and even a few black sesame seeds..do not know what that is.

I feel that maybe they are crawling around my body as well..sometimes I think I feel them crawling inside...it is pretty nasty.

Ok..Thanks for reading!

April 18, 20090 Exhausted again

I woke up to exhaustion again. I wonder if is because I began to take a bunck of antioxidants again. I need to back off the things I am taking.

Or it could be just cleansing. I started the day with 5 drops activated in apple juice..and then an MMS enema with 8 drops in it..of course, I only held the enema for 3 minutes, but it is enough to get things moving out. 

The last 3 days in the late afternoon, 4 PM, I ususally get cravings to eat junk...I have not the last three days and oddly enough, it seems to be the time when the stomach pain begins most intensely. It has been intense with lots of nausea. 

I have been trying so hard not to eat wheat..I almost did today but forced myself not to. It was hard. 

I came home to lay down and took 2 glasses of MMS...my stomach began bloating as it does after the MMS...bloating seems to be a huge sign of parasites...so after about 20 minutes, I felt the need to go. (Graphic words ahead...)

This was a bit of diarrhea that came out but in it were all kinds of small kernel corn things...which again, is supposed to be some type of parasite egg? I drank one more glass, went again, and more came out, but smaller. I am guessing they are eggs of some kind.

Very cool they are coming out on their own..but how many more thousands of these things are inside me?? UGH...

I am going to keep on with the MMS...and if in a few weeks I see that the side effects and bloating and things do not go away, I will get some real parasite medication, like Humaworm. It seems to be a kind that works well.

The twitching has not subsided as it did at first when I began MMS. The cause of which is still unknown. The rashes that were on my leg and stomach are gone as well...

OK...off to nurture my bloating and slightly nauseous stomach!

April 17, 2009- A Down Day...

Well, I am coming off my period and it seems that my hormones are pretty freaked out..or maybe it is the parasites and the toxins causing this sort of imbalance.

I woke EXHAUSTED.

I did a 7 drop MMS enema right away with 2 cups of water. Without rinsing out the bowel first, I can only hold the MMS for 3 minutes...it is NOT a waste. I seem to constantly be expelling stuff in the enema and it does bring relief.

I then took my AM 5 drops. Along with 1 glass of water.

I also took two drops in the afternoon in between all my antioxidants.

By 5 PM, which is the time now, I have a terrible stomach ache. I have decided I really need to try to eat pure...I bought some gluten free pasta...which has some candida feeding ingredients...potatoes and soy, but needed to eat something other than rice and veggies. When you do not feel well, it is not fun to cook.

So, I am battling some intense bloating and cramping now. Wondering if I should do another MMS enema. I feel pretty imbalanced.

Oh well, I guess it is like a wave...up and down. Some days are better than others when cleansing.

Hope your day is better than mine!